All you wanted to know about the WhiteFox and you actually dared asking.
Below I’m trying to reply to the recurring questions that came out on Deskthority, Geekhack and MassDrop. during the keyboard pre-order. If you feel something is still unsolved please drop a comment to this post or keep the discussion on the aforementioned communities.
Buying
» Where can I buy one?
The WhiteFox pre order took place in December 2015. Approximately 1300 units were sold. A new batch started in July 2016.
» What is the difference between barebone, kit and assembled options?
The barebone is for hardcore enthusiasts; it includes the case, the plate, the PCB and the stabilizers only. You have to add your switches and your keycaps. Surface mounted components always come pre-soldered.
The kit includes all the keyboard components: case, plate, PCB, stabilizers, switches, LEDs and USB cable. All surface mounted components (the ones that are really hard to solder at home) come already soldered, you need to solder the switches yourself and –if you want– the LEDs.
The assembled option brings a functional, fully assembled, FCC compliant keyboard to your door step. Plug the cable and start typing.
» Is the assembled fully assembled?
Yes, the keyboard is ready to rock. You don’t need a soldering iron with the assembled option. That being said –depending on the layout you chose– you might still need to flash a suitable firmware. Don’t worry, it’s easy-peasy, it doesn’t require opening the case, soldering or any engineering skill.
» Can I buy the barebone option and add just the [switches/keycaps/cable/LED]?
No, sorry that wouldn’t be possible. We are trying to keep the sale as simple as possible, adding too many options would make things more complicated for logistics and we don’t want to screw up with logistics.
» Can I buy the keycaps separately?
Not at the moment. We might run a full stand alone set of white PBT keycaps, but not just now. Initially we wanted to sell a set separately, but we preferred to keep things simple this time.
» May I have an assembled WhiteFox with Zealio switches?
No, only Gateron and Cherry switches can be ordered assembled.
» Will Zealio switches be available again?
We are trying. It’s not just an availability issue, we have to deal with increased logistics complexity too. Keep an eye on the MassDrop page especially the last few days.
» Will I be able to buy the WhiteFox again in the near future?
My educated guess is that it will take no less than 6 months and production is another 3-4 months. So we are probably talking Q4 2016.
» Is the cable included?
The kit and the assembled versions both include a braided white cable with a blue accent. The barebone version comes without cable.
» I’m an international buyer, can you declare the goods less than the actual value?
I’m sorry, no. That would be fraud.
» If you are selling so many, why doesn’t the price go down?
We are already offering the WhiteFox at the lowest price point possible. To get better deals from the manufacturers we would need to sell in the range of 10000 units.
» Do I get the keycaps just for my layout or for all?
You get all the keycaps whatever layout you picked, assembled or not.
Production
» I heard about a gold edition, is it true?
Yes, the plan was to include a special edition with gold instead of silver anodized aluminum. Unfortunately we couldn’t without delaying the release, so we opted to keep the gold case out and possibly run more color options in the future. We are even in talk for a wood case.
PS: of course it’s not real gold…
» Why was the limit raised from 1000 to 2000 units?
The WhiteFox should have been produced in 1000 units first, later upped to 2000. To get the best price possible we are dealing with OEM manufacturers. They normally require a very high minimum order quantity (usually +5000), so 1000 samples is really the bare minimum we were able to squeeze out the manufacturers. Fortunately the WhiteFox surpassed the 1000 mark and up to 2000 there won’t be sensible production delay.
» Wouldn’t raising the limit to 2000 units slow production for everybody?
The manufacturers are able to produce much more than we could order, anyway to be sure that early buyers get the keyboard on time, the production for a first batch of 1000 has started earlier.
» Are the first 1000 a special edition?
There’s no “special edition” per se but the first 1000 are indeed considered a limited edition.
Help me decide
» Should I get it assembled or solder it myself?
If you are asking yourself this question you probably want to get the factory assembled version. That said, soldering the switches is very easy. If you already have a soldering iron and have even very little experience with it, I would suggest to get the kit and assemble the keyboard yourself. It will be an incredibly satisfying process and the WhiteFox will be really your own.
» What switches should I get?
This is something no one can help you with. Switch choice is a very personal matter. There are mainly three types of switches: linear, tactile and clicky. Each kind can be found with different actuation forces (the stiffness).
Refer to the table below to get an idea of the options available for the WhiteFox (there are actually far more switches available on the market).
Name | Type | Stiffness | Noise |
---|---|---|---|
Cherry MX Blue | Clicky | Medium | High |
Cherry MX Brown | Tactile | Light | Low |
Cherry MX Clear | Tactile | Hard | Avg |
Cherry MX Gray | Linear | Hard | Low |
Cherry MX Green | Clicky | Hard | High |
Cherry MX Red | Linear | Light | Low |
Cherry MX White | Clicky | Hard | Avg |
Gateron Blue | Clicky | Medium | High |
Gateron Brown | Tactile | Light | Low |
Gateron Clear | Linear | Very Light | Low |
Gateron Red | Linear | Light | Low |
Zealio Purple 67g | Tactile | Hard | Avg |
Zealio Clear 65g | Linear | Hard | Low |
Zealio Clear 67g | Linear | Hard | Low |
People new to mechanical keyboards usually find tactile switches easier to get used to. Clicky switches give an audible together with a tactile feedback, they are very entertaining to type on but also pretty noisy. Linear switches do not give any kind of tactile or auditory feedback and are considered very good for gaming.
If you really don’t know where to start from, I would suggest Cherry MX Brown for tactile, Zealio Clear 65g for linear, Gateron Blue for clicky.
» What is the difference between Gateron, Cherry or Zeal switches?
First of all Zealios are actually produced by Gateron. They are all fine switches. It is said that early Gateron switches were overall lower quality compared to Cherry’s, but lately we don’t see that many complains.
I believe you shouldn’t let the brand be your main decision point when picking the switches, but one thing is undeniable: Cherry is the only company with a 30 years history on their products. MX switches are used in airports, POS, banks, … and they are known to be very high quality.
» What switches do you like?
Not sure why this is relevant, but since you asked… I’m not very picky about switches, I like most of them. I find clicky switches the most enjoyable. I also like linear switches for being so general purpose; they are good for gaming, for typing and everything in between. My least favorite are tactile switches. So my choice would go to MX Green, Ghetto-Green (blue slider with black spring), Gateron Blue, MX black or Zealio Clear.
Features
» What is the size of the keyboard?
321x110mm (~12.6×4.3in). Height should be approx 30mm in the tallest point including feet (not including switches and keycaps).
Full assembled the keyboard weights approximately 700g.
» Is it compatible with a Mac?
Yes, of course.
» Does it support NKRO?
Yes.
» Is the WhiteFox open hardware? Can I get the source files?
Yes, the WhiteFox is open hardware. You’ll have full access to the source files including case 3D drawings and PCB schematics. The files will be available close to the keyboard release in May 2016.
» Does it support backlighting?
Yes, the PCB supports basic backlighting. Backlight can be turned on and off and changed in intensity.
» What color are the LEDs?
This is the WhiteFox, guys. LEDs are white.
» Does it support RGB LEDs?
No, adding RGB LEDs would have added a lot of complexity, delayed the release and ultimately made it more expensive. We decided to keep it simple, the WhiteFox’s charm is in her fancy layout, not one billion Christmas lights.
» Can I open the switch to change the spring or lube the slider?
Yes, the plate is designed so it is possible to open the switches without desoldering (or even opening the case). Please note that if you soldered the LEDs you can’t open the switches anymore because the LED seals the top of the switch casing.
» Can I open the switch if the keyboard comes pre-assembled?
Pre-assembled keyboard comes with LEDs already mounted. LEDs seal the top of the switch and it’s not possible to open the switches anymore. You would need to desolder all LEDs first.
» What stabilizers does it support? Does it support PCB mounted Cherry stabilizers?
The WhiteFox supports Costar stabilizers only. If properly installed Costar stabilizers –in designer’s opinion– offer the best typing experience. Being an open frame keyboard multiple stabilizers support wouldn’t be a fancy option.
Please note that the PCB actually supports PCB mounted Cherry stabilizers, so if you can design your plate you could still make a Cherry based keyboard.
» Is it a mini or micro USB port?
The port is a micro USB. While mini USB are more common in the mechanical keyboard world but micro USB is better in every possible way. Especially it helped us to keep the WhiteFox as low profile as possible.
» What is the main PCB processor?
It’s a MK20DX256, similar to the one on the Teensy 3.
» Is it hard to find keycaps for the WhiteFox?
The WhiteFox has few out-of-standard keycaps, notably the right 1.75u shift. Depending on the layout you may also need a 1.5u backspace and 1u bottom row modifiers. The Jack of All Trades layout instead features all standard sized keycaps, so if that is your priority definitely go for it.
Most community designed keycap sets support the few WhiteFox exceptions. Granite, Round 5, DSA Retro, SA Retro, Skull Squadron, Midnight and many others all have enough keys to cover all WhiteFox layouts.
» Are the keycaps backlight compatible? Will the LEDs shine through the letters or bleed out the sides?
The keycaps are in PBT material with dye-sublimated legends. They are not properly “backlight compatible”, light does not shine through the legends but it will be more of a diffuse lighting effect from the sides. Of course you can always use third party keycaps.
» What is the length of the cable included in the kit and assembled options?
The cable is 150cm / 60in.
Assembling
The WhiteFox can be purchased in kit or fully assembled. If you get the kit you’ll need to solder few components yourself.
» Is it easy to solder?
Yes, very easy even with little prior soldering experience. If you never soldered a thing before I suggest you to practice with some spare electronics components first. All you need to learn is how the solder flows when heated.
» Will you help me assembling the WhiteFox?
Follow this very same site, you’ll soon find guides and tutorials to help you build the WhiteFox from A to Z.
» What components do I need to solder?
Only the switches and the LEDs (if you want to). All the tiny surface mounted components come already assembled.
» Is it risky? Can I break something?
Unlikely but there’s always a certain risk involved. You could hit some of the surface mounted components, or you could heat the switches too much damaging the plastic bits inside.
Make some practice with some spare components first, learn how the soldering iron works. Adding switchs is an extremely simple procedure and –unless you are incredibly clumsy– you shouldn’t have any issue.
» What do I need to fully assemble a WhiteFox?
You need a soldering iron or soldering station and some solder wire. Not strictly needed but nice to have some grease lubricant for the stabilizers. There are many brands and availability varies based on your location so it’s not easy to point you to a specific product.
Generally speaking you don’t need an expensive soldering kit. If you plan on making more custom keyboards in the future you may want to invest in a soldering station, especially if you need to desolder.
Probably the most renown brands in the field are Hakko and Weller. A decent entry level soldering iron shouldn’t cost more than $15/€12, while a soldering station goes for around $40-90/€35-80. Anything in the 40-60 Watt range should suffice. High quality soldering stations are pretty expensive ($/€200+) but I wouldn’t adventure in that land if you are really at your first soldering experience.
Some cleaning wire sponge to clean the iron tip might also be useful, steel wool also works and you might already have some at home.
Take any solder in the 0.8mm (0.031″) thickness whereabouts. Lead-free is a bit harder to use for novices, so any 60/40-ish tin/lead wire would probably be a better option.
For the lubricant for the stabilizers I suggest Krytox GPL-205 grease lubricant, Finish Line Extreme Fluoro grease or Super Lube Silicone Lubricating Grease with PTFE (all available on eBay I guess). If you can’t find any of them try to search for “PFPAE grease” and as a last resort try with “silicone grease”.
Please note that the above lubricants are good for the stabilizers only, not for the switches. If you have switch lube, you may use it for the stabilizers, but it’s usually too thin for the purpose (but better than nothing…).
» What LEDs can I use?
Any rectangular 3x2mm, 2.9-3.4V, 10-20mA should do. Round LED may hit the keycap sides, if you can’t find rectangular emitters, 2mm round ones are fine too.
The WhiteFox is very conservative when it comes to backlighting with a 3.3V peak voltage, but way lower on average. You should actually be able to use any LED of any color in the 3 to 5V range (of course higher voltage LEDs won’t make much light).
Firmware
» What does it mean that the keyboard is fully programmable?
The main keyboard processor can be put in debug mode and flashed with a custom firmware or simply a different layout. The firmware source code is open source and anyone can contribute and play around with it.
The possibilities are endless, the famous Hasu’s TMK firmware for example has already been ported to the WhiteFox. Most likely, though, you’ll just need to slightly customize your key layout. Perhaps you want to change the position of a modifier or add a macro. Those are things that can be easily done with the current firmware.
» Can I set macros?
Yes, the current firmware already supports macros. It is possible to assign multiple keystrokes to a single key or to a combination of keys.
» Does it come pre-flashed?
Yes, the keyboard comes with a bootloader and with a standard layout pre-flashed but it is very likely that you’ll need to flash a new firmware when you get it. To simplify the production process we are flashing one firmware for all 6 available layouts, so it is inevitable that some of them will require some optimization.
» Is it easy to flash a new layout?
The firmware is very easy to customize by editing a text file, but you may find easier to use the online configurator. While it doesn’t support all the firmware features, it is extremely easy to use for simple layouts.
Once you have personalized your layout, you can download the firmware ready to be flashed. On the bottom of the keyboard you’ll notice a small 3-4mm hole which gives access to the flash mode button. More info and full instructions in the coming days.
Comments
Hey matt3o, do you have a rough estimate of its weight once assembled, please ?
Thank you!
weight is approx 700g
Any thoughts on how to handle feet assuming one wants the keyboard to sit flat?
just unscrew the feet
I likely wasn’t clear enough. I’m concerned that by removing the feet, I’d be left with effectively a smooth Aluminium plate on the desk, which (I guess depending on weight/surface/angle) could possibly slide and maybe even scratch either surface.
Do you feel this is likely to be an issue? If so, are stick-on rubber feet the best (only?) option?
Thanks for your time.
oh okay, sorry. yes I assumed that if you didn’t use the default feet you would be using stick-on rubber feet. You could also use lower profile aluminum feet, but those have to be bought elsewhere.
Do you know where to get those lower profile aluminum feet?
Gon’s keyboard probably
When will you be releasing the how-to guide on assembling the WhiteFox? I’m too excited, can’t wait.
I hope to be able to work on that next week.
What is the power draw of the keyboard with/without the backlight on? I am looking to make this keyboard wireless and would like to make sure the numbers are feasible. I’m assuming more than 100 mA at 5 V is necessary in the former case.
that is an interesting question. I haven’t tested power consumption yet, but I will soon.
Hi, does the firmware allow the alphabets to be mapped as well? I’m typing on Colemak and having firmware supported Colemak would be useful whenever I have to use someone else’s computer (i.e Pok3r has hardware Colemak and Dvorak). Thanks!
yes, everything can be remapped
I just checked out the firmware, and yes it can be indeed. Thanks, and I’ll be in for the next drop if it comes in Zealios or Gateron Greens!
Thanks for this post, I just built a WF and have some question about remapping.
Currently using RS68 and can be remapped through TKG.
I am used to have 2 functions keys and I cant find these on I:C’s configurator.
1 function key named tricky esc(combine “esc” and shift+esc output “~”)
The other is dual-role send key(tap to trigger particular key like capslock and press it to switch other layers)
Can we have this features in the future or there already have and I didn’t find out.
The features are already supported by the firmware but you have to manually tweak them, the configurator does not have yet an interface for that.
wow, that’s great, thanks for telling me this. I guess these features might be added after.
could you tell me how to set up these keys or there is some kind of resources and tutorial I can learn from.
here you can find the reference for the controller https://www.overleaf.com/read/zzqbdwqjfwwf
if you scroll down to “5 keymapping” you should find everything you need. The trick is to create a basic layout with the configurator and then tweak the result locally.
Thank you, will try to learn how to achieve these functions.
full instructions of flashing coming?
I’m thinking of getting the kit from massdrop but doing to modifications when it comes in. I want to replace the micro usb with a usb type c. While it’ll just be using the usb 2.0 interface on the connector it would still allow for a few neat benefits. Has anyone attempted anything like this?
I don’t think that would be possible, or at least it would be extremely challenging.
Based on the singular image I see of the PCB, the usb connector seems to be a through-hole part. Is this not the case?
it is, yes.
Hey Matt3o, first things first: I love your design and it’s so awesome to have an ISO option.
I was really looking forward to buy one as I missed the first drop but one thing bummed me out a bit: No ISO prints on the keycaps. I know, to keep everything simple and to keep the cost low and I’d be fine with that if the keycaps were optional. I have never assembled a keyboard and I have no tools for that so I wanted to buy a pre-assembled one. Now I have to buy keycaps for the number row, due to the ANSI special character prints and for my language specific keys. Due to that I’m on the fence on buying one.
Will there be more options regarding ISO keycaps on the next drop? Maybe pre-assembled without keycaps or “ISO friendly num row” with just the numbers printed onto?
Thank you,
Shoox
Unfortunately there’s no “universal” ISO. We would need to release keys for each and every language, which would bring the costs insanely high. Your best bet is probably to get the Granite set that will be available soon on Signature Plastics.
Good morning
I hope this isn’t a dumb question. I’ve been looking at the various keyboard layouts that you’re offering and I’m having difficulty seeing what the benefits of one layout is over another. I’ve also checked around the web and not found anything explaining which is best for raw, pure typing. I’m not a hardcore gamer, so were I to get a White Fox it would be used for typing only. I realize that this question may be answered more on the side of personal preference alone, but I’m curious if in designing the layouts, you found that one layout was more “typing centric” than the others.
Thank you very much for your time and consideration.
if you can stand the little not-standard keys, definitely go for the true fox, otherwise Aria.
Is there any place that I can find instructions for using the Whitefox keyboard. I built mine from the first batch but I am new to custom keyboards. How do I get to the function keys? How do I program a macro or access the layers?
Thank you for you patience and help.
The very first step is to go here http://configurator.input.club/ and design your layout! Should be pretty easy to do. For advanced features you can check the firmware manual here https://www.overleaf.com/read/zzqbdwqjfwwf
Hi Matteo
I am new to keyboard configuration software. Can the provided configurator, or at worst, the firmware, be programmed easily for setting one-shot modifiers, for example, a control key that after press and release affects only on the next keypress. Possibly this feature is related to the term ‘latch’ in kiibohd.
yes, that would be “latch”!
Has the hardware source been released yet?
I received one of the cases with no engraving. I didn’t even realise until MassDrop told me there would be a replacement on the way.
Since I’m going to have two very nice Aluminium cases, I figured I may as well get a plate made. Is there anywhere I can get a schematic of the various plate layouts?
Hi Matt3o ,
I’ve just get my The whitefox, but it’s LED not turn on on keycap R. May be it’s died, ant how can i fix it?
if the keyboard came assembled you have to get in touch with MassDrop.
Poor me, MassDrop don’t reply my question. Tks U.
Hello! Will the WhiteFox be available with a ISO-Nordic layout? I have decided on either purchasing a Pok3r or a WhiteFox, but I have to say that the WhiteFox is way more stylish. It also like the milled aluminum case! The only thing that is drawing me towards the Pok3r is that it is available in ISO-Nordic.
Whitefox comes with generic-ISO layout. Unfortunately we can’t cover all ISO languages, so it would be up to you to find the appropriate keycaps.
The Magicforce keyboard comes with a feature that allows you to change Esc-key behavior (it can be Esc on simple press and tile on Fn+press or reverse) with a Fn+Q combination. Is this achievable with Whitefox’s firmware?
yes that would be possible
Hi Matt,
I really really want to buy that Whitefox, so by Q4 do you have any more precise estimate for the next round? Would this be available anywhere else before?
Thank you!
Is there has easy way to make tricky esc(combine “esc” and shift+esc output “~”)
It’s too difficult to me….
Curious if you have plans for another run in the next month or two.
He mentioned early next year, Q1 as most likely for the next drop, and 2-3 months after that for delivery.
Long story short.
I need to purchase just a replacement PCB.
I was fixing one for a friend and I need to buy a PCB.
Please tell me if this is at all possible so that I don’t have to buy him a whole new whitefox kit off mechmarket
Will the next (third) white fox drop be updated or will it be the exact same as the first and second drop (USB c, etc.)?
there will probably be some minor updates.
I am having some issues with my Whitefox.
Sometimes, the keyboard would stop working and non of the keys register. I check the USB connection but nothing seems wrong.
Recently, it will register one key repeatedly. (ie. it would register iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii) and not stop.
Has anybody else ran into this issue?
try to update the firmware!
Any idea on the next drop? Just want to know if I should start saving up right now.
really soon actually!
how soon how soon?! i *think* i just hit a request on massdrop, so i guess i’ll get an email when it’s happening?
Default Key configuration to Toggle LEDs On/Off?
I’ve got a default Vanilla Whitefox and I was wondering if there’s a key combination without flashing/making a custom config to enable/disable the LED backlighting?
Since there are multiple layouts available we couldn’t really make a “firmware to rule them all”. I highly recommend to reflash the firmware so you would also benefit of the newest version available!
So I’m trying to follow this guide https://github.com/kiibohd/controller/wiki/Loading-DFU-Firmware to replace the default layout that came with the keyboard to the truefox layout. The driver installed successfully on Zadig but when I click list devices on the kii-dfu, nothing shows up at all and I can’t finish flashing the truefox bin file as a result. Am I doing something wrong @_@ I haven’t been able to use this board yet cause I can’t seem to swap the layout of this board.
what operating system are you on?
Win10
I managed to get this flashed properly though, seems the front ports just did not want to cooperate. However the h key has no output and I ordered this pre-assembled lol. I’ll check the back or with massdrop support regarding this issue.
The 3rd drop can’t come soon enough. ;)
Im waiting for it u.u
Is there any chance of a wooden case in future GBs?
What’s the latest on the 3rd drop? Rumor from a post at massdrop was you were waiting on a new prototype.
We are trying to hit the by-the-end-of-April deadline.
Still end of April? Or are we shooting for first few weeks of May now?
Something funky is happening, I’ll know more next Tuesday.
Its Tuesday where I live :P Whats the funky thing you speak of!?
Same old big corporate shit. I’ll know better in a few hours.
Exciting!
Will it be possible to make the r3 kit have hot swappable switches using holtites instead of solder?
not by default… but maybe with some work it could be possible, I never really explored the possibility
For the enter, shift and space bar stabilizers, Is there a way to get the prongs to stay in place on certain keycaps? (Trying to use DSA Overcast and the prongs either slip out or aren’t stable enough for a press when finally connected to the stabilizer.
teflon tape is the best option (or a little piece of a plastic bag)
In what manner does the teflon tape/piece of plastic bag help the costar stabilizers stay in the keycap ports? Is it to just keep it held in place? (some of the keycaps give get stuck after pressing them.)
oh sorry that would be another problem. which keys get stuck?
I’m having an issue with mine while gaming. Especially noticed in overwatch. If I hold down one of the keys for an extended(especially noticed with the was keys), when I release it it will continue to be activated. Only happens after a good 20-30 sec of holding it down and only releases when I stop hitting all keys and the tap the direction in which is stuck. It’s not the switch itself as it happens with all keys(they are cherry blues btw). For instance if I hold w to move forward for 20sec and release it, my character will continue to move forward until I hit w again. It’s like skating almost. Any thoughts on how to overcome this?
have you updated the firmware?
I have. I just tried again today and the same thing happens. I tried both my custom config as well as default.
contact me directly via email if you want
I saw that you were aiming for a late-April drop of the whitefox. Will there be any changes to the electronics/PCB in r3?
minor changes yes. nothing you can actually see though
How much will the r3 kit cost?
Are we still seeing a new group buy by the end of April? I’m just curious because I just got into the mechanical keyboarding world <2 weeks but it was a secondhand pok3r with mx browns and I noticed the whitefox with a cluster and want to try my hand at soldering my own!
Will the next drop include an optional wireless feature? or did anyone ever tried to mod it by himself?
not the next drop, but sooner or later….
When is the next drop for the whitefox? I am eagar to get my hands on this awesome keyboard.
we are discussing it right now with I:C and Massdrop. I’ll know better by the end of the day.
Any updates available?
I second that! Getting excited. When is whitefox coming?
Will the next drop offer the Winkeyless layout?
Hey Matt3o,
Since the K-Type is dropping this month on massdrop does that mean we won’t be seeing a whitefox drop? If not that’s ok I’d just like to know due to the fact that if it is dropping shortly after I’ll restrain from buying the K-Type.
Thanks!
I’m sorry I can’t give you more info at the moment. As far as I know the WF is ready to drop any moment.
The hype is real! :)
Can someone tell me what kind of case people use with this keyboard? Size i should look for when buying a sleeve case? Also any place where one can get a usb cable like this https://www.massdrop.com/buy/mechcables-godspeed-custom-sleeved-usb-cable ? will this work with WF?
Like this?
http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keyboard-accessories/custom-sleeved-micro-usb-cable.html
The WF seems to be around 32 x 11 x 5 cm (12.6 x 4.3 x 2) I think
http://specialeemade.bigcartel.com/product/straight-vinyl-keyboard-sleeve-60
These look pretty good imo, I’ll probably get one when I get my WF, the regular size should work and I believe you give them the size and they will make it to size.
amazon
Also it looks like this should probably work with the WF but may not be a perfect fit.(probably a little big)
Hope this helps (I don’t have mine yet as I missed the other drops and my info is based of my research and is 3rd hand so my info may be off so take it with a grain of salt lol :P)
Hello Mateo,
How can I obtain a whitefox, or even a nightfox, with ISO portuguese PT-PT layout?
Thanks for your reply.
currently it is not possible, but I’m working on it. Thanks for your interest!
I can’t wait :)
Hello Mateo,
On the Kono Store, the white fox shows pictures of a case, but there isn’t one for the night fox page. Do you know if there will be one included with the night fox as well?
The nightfox comes with a black carry case!
Hey Matteo,
I am a huge fan of the WhiteFox design and the TrueFox layout. I’m sorry if these three questions are posted elsewhere but I can’t find anything.
1.) Is the polling rate true 1000hz?
2.) Does it have N-Key Rollover?
3.) The Kono Store pictures a gray/blue zipper storage case for the WhiteFox. Where can we get that if we order a WhiteFox? Or is it already included?
I haven’t been this interested in a keyboard since the HHKB2 Type S.
Thanks!
1) yes polling is 1000hz
2) of course it’s nkey :P
3) it is included!
I just placed my order for one. You hit it out of the ballpark with this keyboard.
Thanks Matteo!
Hello!
First I’ve got to say that I adore my new Whitefox.
However, since I’m a dirty non-American, I have all these special characters on my keyboard in places where an American would never expect them!
Will the configurator at any point be updated to support those of us with, for example, Swedish language needs?
One example: When I use the configurator to set the character “>” (important for reddit.com) to the 2nd layed “Z” key, it outputs as “:” no matter how many times I try it.
In short, the configurator seems to be confused about where the characters are on my keyboard.
I have tried t changing the language of my keyboard to US English as some have suggested as a workaround, but that won’t solve my issue.
I’d appreciate any help, or even better: an update to the confiugurator.
Thanks in advance.
set the keyboard to US English and see what characters are actually output where you want the ISO counterpart. Note them down, configure the keyboard with the configurator and set the keyboard back to Swedish. Good luck!
I’ve finally received my Darkfox, and I’d like to take it to the Vanilla layout (Backspace right-top), but the backspace 2.0 width key has the ‘wrong’ key-slots. It has three, instead of the expected 2, where the backspace should live in the vanilla layout.
I’m sorry I’m not sure I understand. The 2u key is stabilized, so it needs 3 slots.
THe 2U key is stabilized by 3 slots, but in the space it should take in the Vanilla layout, it is setup to match up with 2 switches. Do I need to adapt the plate and the placement of the switches to be able to run the Vanilla layout?
I finally understand, I need to change the plate, resolder switches and add a stabilizer for the backspace 2.0 switch. As I keyboard noob, I thought the ‘standard’ layout could quite easily be changed to the vanilla one. Live & Learn.
Hi, my whitefox does not communicate. When I press the flash button (and the LED inside glows red), on windows I dont see it in ZaDig – it shows Unknown device, ‘Device Descriptor Request Failed’, On linux a dfu-utils -l command does not show anything (lsusb does not show anything either). Have tried different cables, different ports on linux and windows, but no luck. Is there anyway to force a reflash?
With the whitefox and nightfox diy kits, is the PCB a standard size? I love the nightfox, and if you could swap the PCB for say a PCB with hot swap switches and Bluetooth id get a diy kit like yesterday :).
I’m trying to work on something like that since forever with I:C, but they are busy doing other stuff.
Hello do you have any advice on troubleshooting a fault? I have an original KB, PCB labelled WF 1.02a which has a fault where some LED’s don’t come on (40, 56, 66) and one is dim (24). I have looked again and again at my soldering but can’t see anything wrong. Thanks.
ping me by email or post on desktority.net
I have a WhiteFox Batch One Limited Edition.
My problem is that it have to re-connect after wake up from sleep or reboot. Without re-connect, the key board is no response. During PC sleep, the light is lit, however, it is not up after the PC sleep.
How should I do?
update the firmware!
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